awaiting appeals court decision

[judyd]

Well we are currently awaiting appeals court(Circuit Court) decision. We requested that it be viewed by all the judges this time (En Banc)because we hope to find at least one fair one in the bunch. If this attempt fails we can try to get the case heard by the supreme court, but they pick and choose and only hear the cases that they choose, so wish me luck!

[realMarie]

I'll wish you good luck, but you're going to need far more than luck for any chance of getting anywhere with this. They flat out shot down every one of your issues, so it's not as if there was even a hint of hope left in that decision. And the Supreme Court? I'd bet money they'll want nothing to do with it. You don't need luck...you need a miracle.

[judyd]

they paid you didn't they?

[soootired]

I find it amusing that Marie ALWAYS knows everything about everyone's case. For a person that was "just a claimant" I also find it interesting that after 10+ years (& she supposedly was paid for her injuries) that she is still hanging around this board giving her opinion. What? & Why? Does she not have a life that she needs to still be here after all these years? You would think after "being paid" a half million dollars that she would go on with life. Wouldn't you?

I mean, would you all still be hanging around to nah nah nah nah those that are still fighting to fight? There has never, EVER, said an encouraging word to any of you. Her comments have always been on the side of AHP/Wyeth.

I find it interesting that she has the knowledge/access to everyone's court cases, even those in circuit court. How many circuit courts in every state/county are there? How does she have the complete names of those filing the cases? Yes, I know. There are show cause filings with names but the circuit court cases don't show up in the Wyeth pages. I just have a lot of questions about this woman. I always have & always will have questions. I say don't trust her because she is NOT your friend.

Get a life Marie......go take a vacation on the money you defrauded/milked out of Wyeth if that's what "really" happened to you. People are really tired of your biased opinion.

[shcook]

Good luck, Judyd. Please keep us all posted! We're rooting for you!

[realMarie]

Soootired, will you ever let go of your foolish paranoia?

The third circuit handles the appeals cases from the Phili district court - here's a link to it www.ca3.uscourts.gov/

It's not necessary to know anyone's name to be able to access the decisions from the third circuit However, as you mentioned, Judys full name was already part of the public documents available on PACER. However, all you need to know if you're interested in finding out the third circuit decision on Judys case is to search for it on the website - it's titled "In re: diet drugs" - same way as all others having to do with the diet drug cases are listed. I certainly don't bother to look at those decisions on a regular basis, but Judy herself let us all know right here that the decision had been made.

This is what it looks like as it's listed there -
Filed 05/16/11, No. 10-1685
In Re: Diet Drugs v.
USDC for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania

And here the link to that decision about Judys case -
vls.law.villanova.edu/locator/3d/May2011//101685np.pdf

And if you want to read all the other decisions about diet drug cases, you simply do a search using a relevant term. Here's the link to that -
www.ca3.uscourts.gov/indexsearch/archives.asp

ALL PUBLIC ACCESS. Nothing mysterious about it. Everything I've ever known about the fen-phen issues which you've convinced yourself is some kind of insider knowledge has all come from public information that's available to ANYONE.

[soootired]

******........if you're interested in finding out..........****

That's my point! IF I'M INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT? Why are you so interested, Marie? What do you have to gain about going to read these cases? No, I'll stick with my original thoughts about you. You have something to gain for being on this site now. You wouldn't be here if you didn't.

[judyd]

they dont shoot down issues what they do is find an aspect they find easier to deal with and focus on that and ignore all else, these responses aren't adequate and are most likely "attended to by the court clerk and as you can see some of the response they gave in this response don't even make sense, of course my cardiologist performed a new reading, this backs up my contention more than the courts, and I submitted a letter from my cardio in my next response. I also pointed out the numerous places that I disagreed with their process of assessing inter-reader variability, the least of which was to say just saying you considered it doesn't make it a reality. etc ect ect
Marie your life must be a sad heap of boredome to take such joy ,pride and interest in discrediting everyones efforts and fights to gain what you seem to have snuck away with.

[judyd]

well my husband and I fought the good fight and in a fair/level playing field we would have prevailed, but it looks like we've went as far as we can. If anyone needs any thing from us contact us or if by some weird act of faith things come out and we get to have another go around let us know or if Marie gets exposed tell us, but we wish you all the best of luck and we hope : a few victories
Judy D and Larry D

[judyd]

P S We wont be on here for another 10 years like an un-named other

[soootired]

So sorry Judy & Larry! It should be criminal what AHP/Wyeth has done to so many people. Yet, they will come out eventually smelling like a flower! I'm still fighting the fight & so many others are still doing so too, but we wish you all the best!!

[soootired]

ps Only when this entire thing is over will the truth come out about "the real Marie". Long long time after all those that should have been paid are dead & gone.

[nick]

Judy and Larry

I am glad I have got to know you two. Both of you have been a tremendous help to me over the years and I intend to hit the both of you up real soon concerning procedures for the court of appeals.

I am astonished that none of the issues that have plagued this settlement, fraud, seventh, etc have presented themselves in showcause yet. .... I mean come on...with the fraud and delays that we have seen and have read about....the direct quotes from Mike Fishbein concerning such...yet, nothing?...nothing?

I was hoping that the court might take some initiative in the recent "inserts" case and expand on it.... IT IS obvious what happened there.....If you choose not to see it does that really mean it did not happen?

I never would have believed that it would actually fall upon me to be the first one in show cause in this failed settlement to raise issues that the parties have so far successfully have buried....I figured surely by now these ugly issues would have presented themselves in some claimant's showcause arguments.. I only wish that this would have been led by a lawyer....not left in the lap of a few lay claimants.

There has already been two highly unusual moves by Class Counsel and the Trust regarding my submitted showcause. I can't be specific right now. I still probably will not win in showcause, but I have been expecting as much for quite some time.......for the past two years my eyes have been squarely focused on the CofA. My showcause was purposely crafted with this in mind...

I'll go down, but I'll go down swinging.

[judyd]

Be carefull,what they will do is focus on certain elements of your case and ignore other arguments, Even if it seems easier, dont let them get away with this if you can at all help it

[bettywilsondoublewhammy]

I havent been on this site for along time. I was one of the pink form filers frome along time ago. Just curious if anyone here in showcause got an offer to settle their claim.